Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/09/2002 01:15 PM House TRA

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SB 226-DESIGN OF HIGHWAY PROJECTS                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING announced that the  matter before the committee was                                                               
CS FOR  SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR  SENATE BILL NO. 226(FIN)  am, "An                                                               
Act relating to design of  highway projects; and providing for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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KRISTIE  KEELE,  Staff  to  Senator  Dave  Donley,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  SB  226  on behalf  of  Senator  Donley,                                                               
sponsor.  She  explained that it would require  the Department of                                                               
Transportation  &  Public  Facilities   (DOT&PF)  to  design  and                                                               
construct  major upgrades  and new  roads  to last  longer.   The                                                               
timeline   of  a   project's  design   life   would  begin   when                                                               
construction is projected to be  completed, and would vary by the                                                               
dollar volume of the project.   Projects costing under $5 million                                                               
would be required  to be designed for  anticipated traffic levels                                                               
at least 10  years after completion; projects  costing $5 million                                                               
to $10  million would be  designed for  levels at least  20 years                                                               
after completion;  and those over  $10 million would  be designed                                                               
for levels at least 25 years after completion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEELE  pointed out that  current federal  regulations require                                                               
federally funded major upgrades and  new roads to be designed for                                                               
at least  20 years of  use, and bridges  must be designed  for 50                                                               
years  of use;  federal law  doesn't prohibit  longer periods  of                                                               
design  life.   She  said  DOT&PF  currently requires  a  20-year                                                               
design life after  completion of a project,  but construction and                                                               
right-of-way delays  can result  in a  reduction of  design life.                                                               
If the design  life of major projects - those  over $10 million -                                                               
is extended to  25 years, there should be less  need for frequent                                                               
road upgrades and construction-related traffic delays.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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MS.  KEELE  explained that  the  legislation  was modified  after                                                               
discussions  with DOT&PF  staff to  exclude maintenance  projects                                                               
and road projects outside of major metropolitan areas.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON asked why that was done.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEELE  answered that  the  bill  also applies  to  federally                                                               
funded  roads.   She yielded  the second  part of  her answer  to                                                               
Dennis Poshard.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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DENNIS POSHARD, Legislative Liaison,  Office of the Commissioner,                                                               
Department of Transportation &  Public Facilities, explained that                                                               
the  department  had  worked  closely   with  Senator  Donley  in                                                               
developing the  bill to make sure  he was getting what  he wanted                                                               
out  of it:   he  was mostly  concerned with  metropolitan areas,                                                               
which is where the problem he was addressing primarily exists.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POSHARD said  the problem  occurs  when a  project is  built                                                               
based on a  particular traffic projection and  then growth occurs                                                               
at a rate that prevents the  full design life from being realized                                                               
before a new  project is required to deal  with traffic problems.                                                               
He said the  problem being addressed is not mainly  the design of                                                               
asphalt or  actual construction.   Rather, the bill is  trying to                                                               
promote  longer-range traffic  models for  projects so  they will                                                               
last longer.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON said  it sounds like common  sense and that                                                               
[the department] should be doing that anyway.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEELE  gave the  example of a  road improvement  after which,                                                               
within five years, cars are backed  up.  That design did not last                                                               
as long as it was anticipated to.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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MR. POSHARD  added that  for any  kind of  new construction  or a                                                               
major reconstruction,  projects are designed to  a 20-year design                                                               
life anyway.   But there are [instances] when a  "smaller fix" is                                                               
required.   He  told the  committee that  when there  is a  large                                                               
project, it  takes longer  to implement  the solution  because of                                                               
right-of-way issues and environmental  regulations.  On occasion,                                                               
the department will  use smaller projects designed  to last maybe                                                               
ten years  to "carry you  through" until  a large project  can be                                                               
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE SCALZI  asked if the short-fix  option Mr. Poshard                                                               
had just described would be affected by the bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POSHARD said  the option  would be  affected slightly:   for                                                               
projects over $5 million, the  department would not be allowed to                                                               
use that "tool."  However, it  would probably not affect too many                                                               
[of  the  smaller] projects.    The  bill  would affect  the  big                                                               
projects,  those  over  $10  million,  which  would  have  to  be                                                               
designed for  25 years instead  of the current  20.  He  said the                                                               
question of what solution should  be used is a philosophical one.                                                               
Traffic  engineers  would  say  they  want  to  have  every  tool                                                               
available to  them, no  matter what the  dollar value,  but [when                                                               
setting] policy,  one can set any  criteria desired.  He  said he                                                               
felt Senator Donley's  concern was that [the state]  is doing too                                                               
much construction of  a smaller scale, and that  projects are not                                                               
lasting long enough.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCALZI expressed his  support for the concept, and                                                               
for the concept of  the bill.  He asked:  If  there were an extra                                                               
five years [added  to the life of projects], wouldn't  there be a                                                               
fiscal impact?  He requested an estimate of the impact.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. POSHARD replied  that there would be an  impact on individual                                                               
projects, most likely  an incremental growth.   The difference in                                                               
a 20-year project and a 25-year  project would not be that great.                                                               
He said it wasn't an operating-budget concern to the department.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE MASEK moved to report  [CSSSSB 226(FIN) am] out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.   There being no objection, CSSSSB  226(FIN) am was                                                               
moved out of the House Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                       

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